{"id":1656,"date":"2021-04-02T09:30:25","date_gmt":"2021-04-02T09:30:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ftd.cognihealth.in\/?page_id=1656"},"modified":"2023-01-16T19:09:20","modified_gmt":"2023-01-16T19:09:20","slug":"can-people-with-fnd-have-changes-to-the-structure-of-their-brain-too","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/pre-prod.neurosymptoms.org\/en_GB\/faq-2\/can-people-with-fnd-have-changes-to-the-structure-of-their-brain-too\/","title":{"rendered":"Can people with FND have changes to the structure of their brain too?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>FND means functional neurological disorder. It describes a problem with the function of the nervous system &#8211; a software problem rather than a hardware problem. In recent years though several studies have suggested that people with FND may have some changes to the structure of their brain  too. Is this correct? And if so what does it mean for how we think about FND?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There have been several interesting studies of differences in brain structure between FND and healthy controls. In one study Carine Maurer in the US and colleagues compared brain scans of 48 people with FND movement disorders with 55 healthy controls of the same age and gender<sup>1<\/sup>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They found that there were some areas of the brain, in the \u2018Gray\u2019 matter that were smaller in patients with FND than healthy controls. These were particularly in areas of the brain related to movement and sensation and areas that are important in experiencing emotions and \u2018fight or flight\u2019 responses.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"941\" height=\"537\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/FAQ1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1657\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pre-prod.neurosymptoms.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/FAQ1.png 941w, https:\/\/pre-prod.neurosymptoms.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/FAQ1-300x171.png 300w, https:\/\/pre-prod.neurosymptoms.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/FAQ1-768x438.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 941px) 100vw, 941px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Several other studies have shown somewhat different findings. I was a co-author on a paper led by David Perez and Indrit Begue, that summarised those findings<sup>2<\/sup>. A consistent pattern hasn\u2019t emerged but it seems likely that there are differences, at a group level between patients who have FND and healthy individuals.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"941\" height=\"474\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/FAQ2.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1658\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pre-prod.neurosymptoms.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/FAQ2.png 941w, https:\/\/pre-prod.neurosymptoms.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/FAQ2-300x151.png 300w, https:\/\/pre-prod.neurosymptoms.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/FAQ2-768x387.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 941px) 100vw, 941px\" \/><figcaption>Areas in the brain that may change in FND<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3>Why didn\u2019t my MRI scan show these structural changes?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>The changes being reported are all subtle and at a group level, so needs the pooling of the scans of lots of individuals to find a discernible difference. The approach taken to investigate these potential brain changes are using research methods that are not validated for clinical use and the clinical significance of these findings remains poorly understood. Furthermore, they are not detectable on individual brain scans which are typically normal in FND, unless the person has another neurological condition or an incidental finding (those are common occurring in 1 in 6 of the population)<sup>3<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3>Why are the brains of people with FND structurally different?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>We don\u2019t know. It could be that people with FND are born with differently structured brains that make them susceptible to the condition.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our brains are constantly changing, developing and shrinking throughout our life. It\u2019s a bit like a muscle. If you use a certain part a lot then it will get bigger, if you don\u2019t it may shrink. For example, London Taxi Drivers who had to learn all the streets of London by heart, have a larger \u2018navigational\u2019 area of the brain than people who are not taxi drivers<sup>1<\/sup>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In fact, people with most psychiatric disorders, such as depression, anxiety and PTSD, have also been found to have structural changes in their brain too, and to a degree that is similar to the studies in FND.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The structural \u2018hardware\u2019 changes may be important because these findings might promote the vulnerability in the system to frequent \u2018software crashes\u2019. The structural alterations being generally found in cortical and limbic areas that are communicating with sensorimotor pathways.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another possibility is that people with FND develop changes in the structure of the brain <em>as a consequence of having the condition, <\/em>rather than a <em>cause<\/em> of the condition. That certainly happens in other neurological conditions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It seems likely that the answer will lie somewhere in between. There probably are structural vulnerabilities and the condition probably changes the brain too.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3>So do these studies show that it should now be classified as a purely neurological disorder?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>FND has a really difficult and stigmatised history. For a very long time it was classified as a purely psychological disorder. In the last 20 years we have been uncovering some of the ways in which FND symptoms are caused in the brain, and have made a lot of progress, but we are still a long way from a definite model.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All of this shakes up our preconceived ideas about what a neurological disorder is and what a psychiatric disorder is. It turns out that the division is false and all of them are occurring in the brain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3>But it shouldn\u2019t be called FND anymore right?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>The name Functional Neurological Disorder describes a condition in which there is a disorder of nervous system functioning. It\u2019s called that in large part because of the way that it is diagnosed. For example:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul><li>People with FND have a pattern of limb weakness that is different to people with structural damage to the brain from stroke and Multiple Sclerosis. In FND the weakness affects parts of the limb most that are strongest in other neurological conditions like stroke. In addition clinical tests like Hoovers sign show that although the patient finds it hard to make the movement \u2013 in fact the more they try the worse it gets \u2013 those movements can transiently return to normal when they are NOT trying to move it&nbsp; &#8211; for example moving the other leg.<\/li><li>People with FND walking problems (Gait disorder) can sometimes find that they can\u2019t walk normally, but they can run or walk backwards. This seems very strange but actually makes a lot of sense in terms of how we know the brain works.<\/li><li>People with FND tremor may have a very shaky hand, but when they are asked to copy a movement made by an examiner it may improve or stop. Or it might take on the rhythm of the examiner. These are things that are rare in any other condition<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>All of these common clinical features clearly show <em>there is a problem with function which is much more obvious than a subtle problem with structure<\/em>. If it was the structure then the weakness would not transiently improve, the tremor would not transiently stop, and the gait would not improve.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From a practical point of view, understanding what these clinical features mean can really help people with FND to see that there is a potential for recovery, that their situation and symptoms may not be as irreversible as they may first appear.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The physiotherapy and psychological therapies being developed for FND help people to get their heads round these issues and build on them for treatment to help \u2018retrain the brain\u2019.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In physiotherapy, if someone\u2019s walking can improve when they are going fast, the physio may use that to regain more normal \u2018automatic\u2019 walking patterns. In psychological therapy, understanding more about how weird the brain is, and how working too hard to make a movement actually make its worse, and more so if you get frustrated or worried, can help.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Many people with FND can\u2019t improve, even when they understand the condition and are really motivated to change. Perhaps the structural changes we have found, or the changes in brain function are too difficult to overcome. We just don\u2019t know at this point whether that is the case or not.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3>Shouldn\u2019t doctors spend more time explaining these structural changes with patients?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Most people with FND think, at some point, that there must be some damage to their brain to cause the symptoms they have.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Understanding how symptoms can transiently improve and how rehabilitation therapies can build on then to gradually gain greater improvement is a key part of clinical treatment. These new FND treatments have already been shown to be promising in randomised controlled clinical trials.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We may at some stage need to build in an understanding of these structural changes into our models and the way we explain FND. But at the moment we simply don\u2019t have enough data to be able to use this information in a clinically useful way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If the structural changes have always been there, then that\u2019s clearly important but we still don\u2019t know if they represent an obstacle to improvement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If the structural changes happen because of the condition, then we need to help patients understand that FND has changed their brain, but treatment can hopefully change it back again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>References<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol><li>Maurer CW, LaFaver K, Limachia GS, <em>et al.<\/em> Gray matter differences in patients with functional movement disorders. <em>Neurology<\/em> 2018; <strong>91<\/strong>: e1870\u20139<\/li><li>B\u00e8gue I, Adams C, Stone J, Perez DL. Structural alterations in functional neurological disorder and related conditions: a software and hardware problem? <em>NeuroImage Clin<\/em> 2019; <strong>22<\/strong>: 101798.<\/li><li>Morris Z, Whiteley WN, Longstreth Jr. WT, <em>et al.<\/em> Incidental findings on brain magnetic resonance imaging: systematic review and meta-analysis. <em>BMJ<\/em> 2009; <strong>339<\/strong>: b3016.<\/li><li>Woollett K, Maguire EA. Acquiring \u201cthe Knowledge\u201d of London\u2019s Layout Drives Structural Brain Changes. <em>Curr Biol<\/em> 2011; <strong>21<\/strong>: 2109\u201314.<\/li><\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>FND means functional neurological disorder. It describes a problem with the function of the nervous system &#8211; a software problem rather than a hardware problem. 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